Legislature(1993 - 1994)

05/08/1994 09:50 PM Senate FIN

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  CSHB 201(FIN) am:   An  Act relating  to  the mental  health                 
                      land  trust and  the mental  health land                 
                      trust   litigation,   Weiss   v.  State,                 
                      4FA-82-2208  Civil,  and   amending  and                 
                      repealing other laws relating  to mental                 
                      health   institutions,   programs,   and                 
                      services that  are affected  by ch.  66,                 
                      SLA 1991; and providing for an effective                 
                      date.                                                    
                                                                               
                      SCSCSHB   201(FIN)   "Z"   version   was                 
                      ADOPTED.    Philip   Volland,  attorney,                 
                      Anchorage;  Tom  Waldo,  attorney; David                 
                      Walker,  attorney;   and  Tom   Koester,                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
                      attorney; spoke  to the  bill.   SCSCSHB
                      201(FIN) was REPORTED  out of  committee                 
                      with a  "do pass," and fiscal  notes for                 
                      the following departments: Law - $200.0,                 
                      DH&SS (302)  -  $150.0,  DH&SS  (951)  -                 
                      $5.2,  Administration  -  $45.9, Natural                 
                      Resources - $728.9.                                      
                                                                               
  CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 201(FIN) am:                                           
                                                                               
       An Act relating to the mental health land trust and the                 
       mental health  land trust  litigation, Weiss  v. State,                 
       4FA-82-2208  Civil, and  amending  and repealing  other                 
       laws relating to  mental health institutions, programs,                 
       and services that are affected by ch. 66, SLA 1991; and                 
       providing for an effective date.                                        
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce announced that SCSCSHB 201(FIN)  version "Z"                 
  was before the committee.  Senator Kelly MOVED  for adoption                 
  of  SCSCSHB 201(FIN) version "Z".  No objection being heard,                 
  it was ADOPTED.                                                              
                                                                               
  Senator  Rieger said the  first change  from the  last draft                 
  that the  committee saw was on  page 15 which said  that the                 
  administrative  expenses  of  the  new  Mental Health  Trust                 
  Authority were made  subject to  AS 37.07 (Executive  Budget                 
  Act)  meaning that  the  legislature would  appropriate that                 
  money.  The second change on page 19, lines 12-15, said that                 
  the seven members would be confirmed by the legislature.                     
                                                                               
  Senator Kelly, speaking to the second change, said that when                 
  the Authority was  first formed in  1991 it was an  advisory                 
  authority.  Now  it had become  the umbrella that would  run                 
  the Mental Health  Fund so it was  felt that it  should have                 
  more public scrutiny.                                                        
                                                                               
  PHILLIP  VOLLAND,   attorney,  from  Anchorage,   urged  the                 
  committee to move HB 201.  He said the legislation addressed                 
  a number of concerns that prevented this issue from becoming                 
  solved.  He felt it was measurable and fair - an exchange of                 
  land that took into account the various  interests that were                 
  effected by the  land exchange, both  from the resource  and                 
  environment  community.   It did  put resolution on  a short                 
  time frame but  he saw that  favorable since it would  force                 
  work toward joint settlement.                                                
                                                                               
  TOM  WALDO,   attorney  for  Public   Interest  Interveners,                 
  coalition for  five environmental groups,  two sport fishing                 
  organizations,  and  the  Susitna  Valley  Organization  for                 
  tourism and recreation, urged the committee to  pass HB 201.                 
  He said  his coalition  had  opposed chapter  66 and  worked                 
  toward a new settlement  that had broader support and  would                 
  better  serve  the   public  interest.    He   said  HB  201                 
  represented  that  work   and  felt  it  was   a  reasonable                 
  compromise.                                                                  
                                                                               
                                                                               
  In answer to Senator Sharp, Mr.  Waldo said there was intent                 
  to create a million acre trust  to generate revenues for the                 
  mental  health  program.    That was  left  entirely  to the                 
  discretion of the legislature on how that management was  to                 
  be established.                                                              
                                                                               
  DAVID WALKER, attorney,  representing Vern Weiss and  others                 
  similarly situated, as well as the Mental Health Association                 
  (represented  by  Jim  Godstein  but  unable to  participate                 
  today), presented  the committee with resolution  #002-94 by                 
  the Mental Health Association (copy  of file, Attachment A).                 
  He  said  he had  been involved  in this  for years  and had                 
  concerns about HB  201.  He  also believed it contained  all                 
  the elements  needed for a  settlement, but may  not achieve                 
  it.  He felt there were some mean-spirited provisions in the                 
  bill.                                                                        
                                                                               
  Senator Kelly was of the opinion that the elements in HB 201                 
  agreed  with   Resolution  #002-94  by  the   Mental  Health                 
  Association  in  Alaska.     Mr.  Walker  pointed   out  the                 
  Association's concern was with the  management element in HB
  201.                                                                         
                                                                               
  In answer to Senator Sharp,  referring to the word "initial"                 
  on page 5, line  30, Commissioner Noah said  that additional                 
  revenue would go into the Fund from the lands.                               
                                                                               
  TOM KOESTER, attorney,  representing the State of  Alaska in                 
  the Weiss litigation, explained  that there were  provisions                 
  in Title 13 that relate to  trust administration.  Under the                 
  provisions  of  Title 13,  certain  revenues from  land, for                 
  example, the sale  of land, proceeds  of that sale, must  be                 
  preserved.   If the  land was  leased, the  income could  be                 
  spent  for  programs.    Those  rules  would  apply  to  the                 
  allocation  of revenues from mental health  trust lands.  He                 
  said it was standard trust administration.                                   
                                                                               
  In answer to  Co-chair Frank, Mr. Koester  agreed that would                 
  happen without appropriation.  In answer to another question                 
  by Co-chair Frank, Senator Kelly said that of September  15,                 
  a  full  report  of all  contracts  would  be  given to  the                 
  legislature.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Mr. Koester  said that  the recommendations  that the  Trust                 
  Authority gave  to  the legislature  as  to what  it  should                 
  appropriate, included a  report that  would make clear  what                 
  the  total  package  ought  to look  like.    Senator  Kelly                 
  concluded that the legislature would  just have to wait  and                 
  see how it would all work out.   Senator Sharp stated he did                 
  not like the word  "initial."  Senator Rieger said  the word                 
  "initial" occurs only in the findings and purpose section.                   
                                                                               
  Senator Kelly  MOVED for  passage of  SCSCSHB 201(FIN)  from                 
  committee  with  individual  recommendations.    Hearing  no                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  objection, the bill was REPORTED out of committee with a "do                 
  pass" (Co-chair  Frank,  Senators Rieger,  Jacko, and  Kelly                 
  signed  "do  pass," and  Co-chair  Pearce and  Senator Sharp                 
  signed  "no  recommendation"),  and  fiscal  notes  for  the                 
  Department  of Law  -  $200.0, the  Department  of Health  &                 
  Social  Services,  #302  -  $150.0  and  #951  -  $5.2,  the                 
  Department of Administration - $45.9,  and the Department of                 
  Natural Resources - $728.9.                                                  
                                                                               

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